Hayes Branch Family Tree

John CARSON

Person Chart

Partners

Partner	Date of Birth	Children
Marion BEATTIE	01 Sep 1827	Robert CARSON

Person Events

Event Type	Date	Place	Description
Birth	ABT 1820	Kirkcudbright, Kirkcudbrightshire, Scotland, United Kingdom
Place of Residence	1861	Vessels, Lancashire, England, United Kingdom	Age: 41; Relation to Head of House: A B Seaman
Place of Residence	1871	Liverpool, Lancashire, England, United Kingdom
Place of Residence	1881	Kirkdale, Lancashire, England, United Kingdom
Death	BET 1881 AND 1891	Liverpool, Lancashire, England, United Kingdom

Notes


Date: 22 March 1847 Ship Name/No: COUNTESS OF GALLOWAY Port: Wigtown Type: Not Specified Registration No: 21702 Burthen: Length: Breadth: Hold: Description: N/K Master: Owners: BLACK, John, John McMILLAN, James CUMMING and John McGUFFIE - four of the trustees or directors and partners of the company trading under the form of the Galloway Steam Navigation Company duly appointed in articles of co-partnership dated 01 December 1845. History: Registry closed on 07 Dec. 1877 as vessel transferred to Glasgow and Cert of Registry delivered up at that port. Surveyor: Later Masters: Notes: Archive Ref: CE 61/11/3 Folio No: 74
John Carson, an English subject, was the pilot or Captain of a ship named SICILIA The Sicilia sliced in two, a paddle-wheel vessel called the ERCOLANO The incident occurred in April of 1854 John Carsons father was named William A trial was begun in 1858 John Carson fled Italy sometime after the incident. There are six John Carsons listed in Ancestry's Master's & Mates database According to Ancestry.com, there is only one John Carson with a Master Certificate before the incident. This John Carson was b. 1816 There are two John Carson who also had their Masters Certificate. On in 1870. The other in 1869. But the database only contains Certificates as of 1850. Could there be other Captains who do not appear in the database? Here are a few of the known John Carsons basedon a few online birth records: - John Carson with parents of William in Sarah, b. 15 May 1820 in Liverpool - John Carson with parents of William and Mary b. Circa 1817 in Kirby, England (a farmer in 1851) - John Carson with parents of William in Sarah, b. 25 Jan 1817 in Kirkby Stephen, Westmorland, England In 1861, just a few years after the trial, there were dozens of John Carsons in England, including: - John Cason, an AB Seaman on board the "Countess of Galloway" was on his vessel in 1861 in Trafalgar Dock Liverpool. He was born. abt 1820, in Kirkcudbright. Married. - John Carson, a Master on board "The Jane", b. circa 1814 in Kirkcudbright was on his vessel in Lancaster Quayl in 1861. Married. Was on board with an Alexander Carson. - Right now, I have my John Carson associated with the AB Seaman, based on his birth date. This John is an AB Seaman AFTER the incident. My Marion Beattie Carson was still in Scotland in 1861, 7 years after the incident. Here are some John Carsons, son of William from the Family Trees area of Ancestry.com

Date: 22 March 1847
Ship Name/No: COUNTESS OF GALLOWAY
Port: Wigtown
Type: Not Specified
Registration No: 21702
Burthen:
Length:
Breadth:
Hold:
Description: N/K
Master:
Owners: BLACK, John, John McMILLAN, James CUMMING and John McGUFFIE - four of the trustees or directors and partners of the company trading under the form of the Galloway Steam Navigation Company duly appointed in articles of co-partnership dated 01 December 1845.
History: Registry closed on 07 Dec. 1877 as vessel transferred to Glasgow and Cert of Registry delivered up at that port.
Surveyor:
Later Masters:
Notes:
Archive Ref: CE 61/11/3
Folio No: 74

John Carson, an English subject, was the pilot or Captain of a ship named SICILIA
The Sicilia sliced in two, a paddle-wheel vessel called the ERCOLANO
The incident occurred in April of 1854
John Carsons father was named William
A trial was begun in 1858
John Carson fled Italy sometime after the incident.

There are six John Carsons listed in Ancestry's Master's & Mates database
According to Ancestry.com, there is only one John Carson with a Master Certificate before the incident. This John Carson was b. 1816
There are two John Carson who also had their Masters Certificate. On in 1870. The other in 1869.
But the database only contains Certificates as of 1850.
Could there be other Captains who do not appear in the database?

Here are a few of the known John Carsons basedon a few online birth records:
- John Carson with parents of William in Sarah, b. 15 May 1820 in Liverpool
- John Carson with parents of William and Mary b. Circa 1817 in Kirby, England (a farmer in 1851)
- John Carson with parents of William in Sarah, b. 25 Jan 1817 in Kirkby Stephen, Westmorland, England

In 1861, just a few years after the trial, there were dozens of John Carsons in England, including:
- John Cason, an AB Seaman on board the "Countess of Galloway" was on his vessel in 1861 in Trafalgar Dock Liverpool. He was born. abt 1820, in Kirkcudbright. Married.
- John Carson, a Master on board "The Jane", b. circa 1814 in Kirkcudbright was on his vessel in Lancaster Quayl in 1861. Married. Was on board with an Alexander Carson.
- Right now, I have my John Carson associated with the AB Seaman, based on his birth date. This John is an AB Seaman AFTER the incident.

My Marion Beattie Carson was still in Scotland in 1861, 7 years after the incident.

Here are some John Carsons, son of William from the Family Trees area of Ancestry.com

Sources

Description	Page	Quality	Information	Evidence
1861 England Census, Name: Ancestry.com Operations Inc; Location: Provo, UT, USA; Date: 2005;	Class: RG 9; Piece: 4506; Folio: 30; GSU roll: 543296	Don't know	Don't know	Don't know
1871 England Census, Name: Ancestry.com Operations Inc; Location: Provo, UT, USA; Date: 2004;	Class: RG10; Piece: 3760; Folio: 137; Page: 21; GSU roll: 841879.	Don't know	Don't know	Don't know
1881 England Census, Name: Ancestry.com Operations Inc; Location: Provo, UT, USA; Date: 2004;	Class: RG11; Piece: 3675; Folio: 114; Page: 52; GSU roll: 1341880.	Don't know	Don't know	Don't know
Scotland, Select Births and Baptisms, 1564-1950, Name: Ancestry.com Operations, Inc.; Location: Provo, UT, USA; Date: 2014;		Don't know	Don't know	Don't know